On this post you will find three reviews of The Triplets of Belleville and one news story about the director. Give them a read and then dig into an online class discussion. Use ideas, concerns, analysis, and criticism from the articles as jumping off points. Use quotations. This post will be left open all weekend, so you can contribute up through Tuesday class time.
The Triplets of Belleville
BY ROGER EBERT / Dec 26, 2003
Ebert Rating: ***½
"The Triplets of Belleville" will
have you walking out of the theater with a goofy damn grin on your face, wondering what just happened to you.
To call it weird would be a cowardly evasion.
It is creepy, eccentric, eerie, flaky, freaky, funky, grotesque, inscrutable, kinky, kooky, magical,
oddball, spooky, uncanny, uncouth and unearthly. Especially uncouth. What I did was, I typed
the word "weird" and when that wholly failed to evoke the feelings the film stirred in me, I turned to
the thesaurus and it suggested the above substitutes -- and none of them do the trick, either.
There is not even a way I can tell you what
the film is "like," because I can't think of another film
"like" it. Maybe the British cartoonists Ronald Searle
and Gerald Scarfe suggest the visual style. Sylvain Chomet, the writer and director, has created
an animated feature of appalling originality and scary charm. It's one of those movies where you keep
banging your fist against your head to stop yourself from using the word meets, as in Monsieur
Hulot meets Tim Burton, or the Marquis de Sade meets Lance Armstrong.
Most animated features have an almost
grotesque desire to be loved. This one doesn't seem to care. It creates a world of selfishness, cruelty,
corruption and futility -- but it's not serious about this world and it doesn't
want to attack it or improve upon it. It simply wants to sweep us up in its
dark comic vision. The movie opens in France, where a small boy
and his dog live in the top floor of a narrow, crooked house. The Metro roars past on schedule, and
his dog races upstairs on schedule to bark at it, and the boy's grandmother gives the boy a trike and
eventually a bike, and soon he is the foremost bicycle racer in the world. Meanwhile, the Metro has been
replaced by an elevated highway that shoulders the house to one side, so that it leans crookedly and
the stairs are dangerous for the dog to climb.
The grandmother is a ferocious trainer. A
little whistle seems welded to her jaw, and she toots relentlessly as the boy pedals. Then he is
kidnapped by thugs who want to use him for a private gambling operation, and the key to his rescue
may be the Triplets of Belleville, who were music hall stars in the era of Josephine Baker, so how
old would that make them now?
The action leaves Paris for New York, maybe,
although it is more likely Montreal, where Chomet lives. Doesn't matter so much, since there has never
been a city like this. Jazz joints from the 1930s exist with noir hideouts and bizarre tortures. After
a certain point it isn't the surprises that surprise us -- it's the surprises about the surprises. We take it
in stride, for example, when the Triplets go fishing for frogs with dynamite. Wasn't it only earlier this
week, in "Big Fish," that Ewan McGregor hunted a giant catfish with dynamite? No, what amazes us is that one
of the exploded frogs survives and crawls desperately from a scalding pot in its bid for freedom.
I am completely failing to do justice to this
film. Now you think it is about frog torture. I will get letters from PETA. What happens to the frogs is
nothing compared to what happens to the grandson, who is subjected to Rube Goldberg exercise machines,
and at one point, has his kneecaps vacuumed.
Nostalgia For a Land That Twirls In Dreams
By A. O. SCOTT
There are some works of animation that are
notable for their realism, for conjuring imaginary worlds whose inhabitants --
the sea creatures in ''Finding Nemo,'' the witches and princesses in classic
Disney fairy tales, the wide-eyed heroines of Japanese anime -- move in more or
less plausible ways through fantastical settings. Others -- the cartoons of Tex
Avery and Chuck Jones come to mind -- rewrite the laws of physics and the
conventions of physiology to suit their own fanciful requirements.
''The Triplets of Belleville,'' the first
feature film by Sylvan Chomet, surely belongs in the second category. Mr.
Chomet's is a universe of sheer impossibility, where size, proportion and
balance are ruled by the whims of his perverse pen and peculiar imagination.
Although that imagination has evidently been
fed by sources as various as Betty Boop, Jacques Tati and European comic books,
its products are too strange to be assimilated into any known tradition. ''The
Triplets,'' which opens today in New York and Los Angeles, may be the oddest
movie of the year, by turns sweet and sinister, insouciant and grotesque,
invitingly funny and forbiddingly dark. It may also be one of the best, a tour
de force of ink-washed, crosshatched mischief and unlikely sublimity.
The film's two lines of intelligible dialogue
have been dubbed into English since it was shown, to rapturous applause, at the
Cannes Film Festival in May. Its sensibility, however, remains irreducibly
French, and it may confuse audiences used to the cuddly multicultural moralism
that defines American feature-length animation.
The overture is a black-and-white spectacle:
naughty, exuberant and a little creepy. It evokes Josephine Baker and Fred
Astaire (eaten by his own shoes) and introduces the Triplets of the title, a
trio of gangly, cloche-wearing scat singers. (They sing the movie's theme song,
a swinging piece of nonsense likely to stick in your head for hours after you
leave the theater.)
These celebrities turn out to be images
flickering on a battered television set that belongs to Madame Souza, an old
woman with thick glasses and orthopedic shoes who lives in a rickety building
with her orphaned grandson, Champion. He is a gloomy, tubby boy who smiles only
when his grandmother presents him with a tricycle, a gift that foreshadows his
eventual transformation into a gaunt, sad-eyed Tour de France bicyclist with
hypertrophied calves and thighs.
The story is too bizarre and wonderful to
summarize, but it leads Madame Souza to Belleville, a Manhattan-like dream city
populated by obese hamburger eaters, cretinous Boy Scouts, and a diminutive
red-nosed French mafia chieftain. Belleville (not to be confused with the Paris
neighborhood of the same name) is also the home of the Triplets, now ancient,
who subsist entirely on frogs and frog byproducts and who make infectious music
out of household appliances and carefully preserved newspapers.
''The Triplets'' is a similar collage of the
found and the invented. Its style evokes a postwar France making its stubborn,
eccentric way into the modern world, a nation of chain-smoking truck drivers
and accordion-squeezing pop singers, presided over by Charles de Gaulle, whose
beaked, chinless profile is mirrored in many of the film's faces, including
Champion's. Mr. Chomet, who dedicated the film to his parents, clearly feels
some nostalgia for the mixture of worldliness and parochialism that defined the
bygone France. And it is possible to detect, in his view of the fleshy
Bellevilleans, a whiff of Gallic disdain for the gigantism of American culture.
The twisting of cultural stereotypes has long
been part of the cartoon heritage; think of the amorous Pepe le Peu, for
example. In any case the tether that connects Mr. Chomet's imagined world with
the real one is long and loose. He is a master of surprise, terror, silliness
and sheer eccentricity, and this compact movie is stuffed nearly to bursting
with astounding sequences: Madame Souza setting out in the moonlight, by pedal
boat, in the wake of a giant ocean liner; her dog, Bruno, dreaming in black and
white; one of the triplets hunting frogs with an hand grenade.
I could go on, and it is likely that before
too long, bits and pieces of ''The Triplets'' will find their way into the
cartoon lexicon. Best to see this curious and captivating film now, before some
of its vivid strangeness fades into familiarity.
The Art of Noise
Kinetic French retro-toon and onomatopoeic
Hungarian whatsit beat the curse of subtitles
J. Hoberman
published: Nov ember 25, 2003
Is there a way for foreign movies to avoid the
curse of subtitles? Not with mime but with noise. The spirits of Mickey Mouse and Jacques Tati hover
over the French-Belgian-Canadian animation The Triplets of Belleville and the Hungarian
whatsit Hukkle; each is a splendidly eccentric first feature that triumphantly tosses aside dialogue in favor of
a richly expressive audio mix. Finding Nemo and Looney Tunes: Back in Action notwithstanding,
the year's most ingenious and original animated feature is the gloriously retro
The Triplets of Belleville, written and directed by erstwhile comic-book artist
Sylvain Chomet. The last Hollywood animation this good was The Iron Giant, and
Triplets is similarly steeped in two-dimensional cartoon-ness.
The movie opens with a brilliantly executed
pastiche of an early-'30s Fleischer Brothers Talkertoon—complete with
scratches. A stretch-and-squeeze horde of funny-looking swells descends on an
all-star variety show. Caricatured celebs performing for the rhythmically
recycled audience include Django Reinhardt, Josephine Baker, and Fred Astaire
(devoured by one of his tap shoes). The stars of the show, however, are the eponymous triplets whose
infectious scatting provides an insinuatingly manic and vaguely scatological
backdrop.
Chomet leaves the spectator wanting more. The
cartoon disintegrates into static, as watched on television by old Madame Souza
and her morose, sharp-nosed grandson Champion, sometime during the de Gaulle
era. (Chomet himself was born in 1963.) Madame Souza, Champion, and their obnoxiously barking dog, Bruno, live in
an isolated house that's been knocked askew by a railroad trestle. For their
world, Triplets switches to a proudly sketchy storybook style.
The spidery lines and spindly figures suggest
Ronald Searle. The characters might be stuffed with kapok. The palette is
subdued and autumnal—goldenrod and ochre with a burnt sienna wash. Virtually
devoid of dialogue, Triplets is a narrative contraption that concerns a
narrative contraption— as well as an animated cartoon that never stops thinking
about motion. Madame Souza's every step is emphasized by a clunky orthopedic
shoe. Champion becomes a fanatical bicyclist. Subjected by his grandmother to a
hilariously intense regimen, he never stops riding his bike—even once he's
kidnapped by two mysterious men in black and taken away in an oversize
freighter. The boat sits on the Hokusai Sea like a rusty flame as the unstoppable
Madame Souza and Bruno paddle after it, dodging storms and whales, to arrive in
the alt-New York (cum Quebec) of Belleville.
The bovine Statue of Liberty in the harbor
presages an entire city of big-bottomed fatties. (Chomet's characters are
typically based on a few visual ideas. The bad guys are menacingly modular
rectangular blocks, a maître d' is designed
to bend over backward, and a timorous mechanic wears fake mouse ears.) Living
below the alt-Brooklyn Bridge, Madame Souza is discovered by the triplets,
ancient but still scatting. The crones bring her back to their sordid
tenement—kids will love the details—for a meal of mucky amphibian stew.
Champion, meanwhile, is being held captive in a subterranean nightclub where
gangsters gamble on virtual bicycle races—as in an old movie, the background
scenery is furnished by primitive rear-screen projection. Triplets ends with a
chase within a chase—the liberated captives still peddling away—and a requisite
serving of smash and crash.
All animation is obsessive; Triplets also
manages to seem fresh. It's nasty but droll, cheerfully grotesque, full of non
sequiturs as well as deadpan repetitions, never cute and the opposite of
precious. In the grand finale, the old ladies infiltrate the joint as a noise
orchestra, performing their hits on newspaper, refrigerator shelves, and vacuum
cleaner. You have to see it.
Artisanal French Animator Says No to His Mouse
and the Mouse
David Ng
Nov. 25, 2003
Last summer, Jeffrey Katzenberg declared
that "traditional animation is likely a thing of the past." This
week, the new French film The Triplets of Bellevilleprovides
ample evidence to the contrary. A hand-drawn smorgasbord of caricaturized
modernity told with minimal dialogue, Triplets rejuvenates
the 2-D genre through an artisanal obsession with detail. "I was trying a
lot to carry on the animation of the '50s and '60s," says writer-director Sylvain Chomet, citing Disney's cel-based
classics as a primary influence. "I wanted to take the technique of 101 Dalmatians and tell a story that's maybe a little
more adult."
A veteran comic-book artist, the 40-year-old
Chomet doesn't hesitate when asked about his foremost passion: "I like to
draw, and I don't want to spend my time in front of a monitor with a
mouse." Tripletsdoes contain some digital effects, but the
characters—spindly cyclist Champion, his elfin grandmother, and their neurotic
mutt—were created entirely by an intimate team of sketchers. "I was
directing them at the same time I was animating," explains Chomet. "I
could show what I wanted by drawing in front of them." While Triplets contains copious references to Tati and
Chaplin, Chomet insists his inspirations were more contemporary. For the
eponymous trio of music-hall dames who rescue Champion from the Mafia, he
wanted to combine "the idea of these old women carrying basketball players
inside of them" with the bebop charisma of 'Round Midnight'sDexter Gordon.
As personal as anything from the Disney/Pixar axis is mass-produced, Tripletsonly grows in scope and imagination, especially
in the unveiling of Belleville, an ur-metropolis that Chomet describes as
"a cross between New York and Montreal, or Chicago and
Montreal." Ironically, Chomet once worked at Disney ("I've never been
paid so much to be so useless"), and the experience has clearly honed his
subversive tastes. Triplets contains both nudity and gun
violence—taboo subjects for the Mouse's target demographic. "In the States
today, there's more creativity in TV animation than in the cinema," Chomet
ventures, listing South Park and Ren & Stimpy among
his favorites. "What surprises me is that while you won't show guns in an
animated film, your kids are allowed to have them."
Okay, ready, gang? Dig in!
Which one of you was it that mentioned 101 Dalmations and how ToB was similar in style? Sounds like you were right one target. What about the movie made you make the connection?
ReplyDeleteall i know is that Joey Zerang made this connection but i dont know why.
DeleteHe's abscent today
DeleteI didn't make the connection, but I did notice that after watching it. Everything is really exaggerated. The grandma is really, really short and the son is a stick, but his legs are really, really muscular. In 101 Dalmations, Cruella is really stock and really thin, and this is exaggerated with the way her coat bounces on her. The two dognappers are either really fat or thin, and you can see this clearly with the way the clothes are on them either really tight or baggy. Everything in both of these movies is exaggerated immensly using either size and proportions, clothes, or some other way of making identifying who the character is as blatant as possible.
DeleteAfter this was mentioned, it was easy to see how the animation is similar. The characters are not by any means accurate, but they still look like humans and represnt the image the director is trying to portray. I agree with Billy that everything is exaggerated like the waiters flexability and the calf muscles of the byciclists. People were either really fat or really thin in the movie, or really tall or really short. there is no inbetween and everything is dramatically portrayed.
DeleteI don't think the direct character animation is the same. I do, however, think that the buildings, and the backgrounds, and the scenery are very similar. It's easy to tell because both settings are city located.
DeleteI dont think there was any connection from this movie to 101 dalmations. It may be coincidence that both movies had people fat, thin, or realy tall but other that what connections are there? A lot of movies also use the idea people being fat, thin, or realy tall;But the ToB had put it to the extreme to show streo types at the max. so once again were is the connection.
DeleteI disagree with Ali I think that 101 Dalmatians is very similar. In 101 Dalmatian there is an evil lady that is trying to abduct the dogs and in ToB there are people in suits abducting bicyclists in the tour da France. Besides the plot even the animation is very similar. So I don’t know how there isn’t a connection.
DeleteI think there was. I agree, the people were really exaggerated, but we could still tell who everybody was. Also, I feel like the colors were similar in both movies, they were more dull.
DeleteI think just the kookiness of the film made it seem similar and also how the characters look. The evil lady in 101 Dalmatians has this creepy look about her and where she lives and it's the same with the old lady in The Triplets of Belleville.
Delete"Artisanal French Animator Says No to His Mouse and the Mouse" - Which of the two mouses do you think is most important for animation directors to ignore?
ReplyDeleteI thought that article was really interesting a prevenlent to today when most animators are using computres to tell the story. It was refreshing to see a recent movie where someone actaully drew the animation. It was unlike something like Toy Story or Finding Nemo, which made it unique, interesting, and enjoyable to watch. I do like modern animation, but i also like having a break from it and seeing something differnt. Like the TOB director said,ther is more creativity in drawing animation.
DeleteI agree with Kendall.I also liked that this wasn't fully computer animated.I loved how the background was like a picture. Also i think it made this film better. If it looked like Toy Story i probably would of hated it to be honest. I think it needed to look hand drawn
DeleteIs ToB a happy or sad story? Neither? How do we classify the tone?
ReplyDeleteI wasn't really saddened at any parts of ToB, and that's coming from someone who did cry when Cruella DeVille tried to abduct puppy dalmations. I feel the tone was just "emotionless subjectivity to the bizarre." When the grandmother's son is cycling on the machine, he never has a tear drop from his face. In fact, it almost seems as if he is content the whole entire time. Even when the dog got its tail caught by the train, I personally went "ah!" and then that was the end of that.... the dog was okay, and it added a LOT to the story in the end. At the end, the bad guys are terminated and the good guys win. I'd say, happy if anything, but still, neither.
DeleteI have to say I felt it was actually kind of happy. I'm a guy that actually is very close with my grandma and the way the grandma went after her grandson, I guess i can kind of connect to that because I know my grandma would do anything for me as well. So I have to say that I can connect to the happiness. As far as being a sad story, I wasn't ever saddened or anything, there wasn't a ton of emotion in the story. Although, I did feel a little bad when the grandma was all by herself with just the dog in by the fire.
DeleteI dont think TOB is a sad story, but it has a dark tone to it. It is not a childs cartoon and the creatures used more darker colors for the movie which added a a certain feel to the film. I would not say it is a sad movie, but more scary. The men riding on the bikes was kind of scary to me because it was so inhumane an disturbing to see people, even if they are a cartoon, used in that manner.
DeleteI would described the story as a weird funny story because of the animation. the weird Animation was portarying people in odd ways Amercains are fat, weighters are in a 90 degree angle, and badguys have square body guards. which i thoughout was funny.
DeleteTo be completely honest, I thought it was more of a happy story, though it does have some dark parts at times. The main character I think is more of the grandma and even though it's sad when she loses her son, she does wind up finding him and literally destroying the bad guy. The son also never really seems to have a particular emotion. He didn't seem upset or sad after he got the bike. He just seemed emotionless and neutral which doesn't give us any sympathy for him. Even when he's captured, he seems perfectly fine about it. In the end they eventually unite and it has a hapy ending. Ovearll, I think it was a pretty happy story.
Deletethe film kept making me feel different. at parts i would feel sad only for a quick second but then at other parts i felt happy and excited. over all the movie was very good and made me happ, the tone was mostly happy even when the grandma was with the dog looking for the grandson. i feel like the tone just kept climbing uphill and just became funnier, sillier, and happier.
DeleteI agree with Dakota. It had happy moments but not really any sad ones. The only scene I could think that was even romotely sad was when the grandmother's son was "abducted" by the mafia guys and he just kind of accepted it and got into the truck with the other abductees. And that was that. So I wouldn't particularly say any of it was sad. There were plenty of happy moments though including the ending. It ended on a happy note...
DeleteI think this movie was just an ambiguous journey. You don't know much about these characters, and it is up to you whether you feel for them or not, and use that to decide on your own what you think of them. I think this director is great because he doesn't force you to connect with them, he just shows you them. There was no obvious tone unless you count weird and off-puting, but that's not always a bad thing. For this, It think this movie is genius, but also neither happy nor sad.
DeleteI would say sad because at the start of the movie we see that, the young cyclist’s parents have either left him r died leaving him with his grandmother. Before he becomes a cyclist he’s a very energetic boy that plays with his dog and laughs. When he grows up (most of the movie) his facial expression is depressed and looks like he’s forced into biking.
DeleteI thought that ToB was a happy story. I think it deffinitley was sad as well. I think that Sylvain Chomet, the director, intended us to feel sad for the grandma. Something happened to the kids parents and the grandma has to take care of him. She tries so hard to make him happy, but he never really does. This is Until she got him the bike. When they are going home after the grandma saved her grandson, i think we are supposed to be happy for the grandma. Throughout the film though there are alot of humorous parts so i think it is covered up. But mostly this was a happy movie with sad parts thrown in to tell the story of the grandma.
DeleteI believe this movie is neither because it manages to create its own world and rules. This movie becomes about a story that happens in this crazy, kinky, bizzare world, where care can flip over with shoes and people kidnap bikers for gambling. But I would say the movie is about the love the lady has for her grandson. She unconditionally loves him and will do the impossible for him. While i personally didn't like the animation, the plot is full of surprises that keep you glued even if you cant stand the animation.
DeleteI beleive that it was a happy movie, just with sad parts. The whole movie also for some reason felt dark to me. Almost like it is supposed to be sad or depressing. However, the overall story and plot, I belive is a happy one.
DeleteI thought it was a happy movie just with a large conflict. Watching it was also fun because you feel like your trying to help find him. I didn't think I would be able to have that feeling with a cartoon.
DeleteI think the movie was neither, but more of a sad story with funny/ happy events that made it more cheerful. When I was watching the movie the colors were more dull, that gave more of a sad tone. Also, the expressions on the characters faces were plain, as in none of them were really smiling. But I never really felt "sad," during the movie. I felt bad at parts, for example when the dog got its tail ran over. So I think the movie was neither.
ReplyDeleteI think the movie was neither, but more of a sad story with funny/ happy events that made it more cheerful. When I was watching the movie the colors were more dull, that gave more of a sad tone. Also, the expressions on the characters faces were plain, as in none of them were really smiling. But I never really felt "sad," during the movie. I felt bad at parts, for example when the dog got its tail ran over. So I think the movie was neither.
ReplyDeleteIn the first article by Roger Ebert he says; "Most animated features have an almost grotesque desire to be loved." This is something I think is very easy to agree with. Animated movies are beautiful, and you cannot help but fall in love with them! I know that I didn't really like The triplets of belleville but I still found myself love the Grandma throughout the film.
ReplyDeleteWhat didn't you like about them?
DeleteYes, I agree. Animated movies do have this quality that makes me happy when I watch them. Without the grandma I feel like it would have been a very dark movie not really for children. The grandma reminds me of my childhood; short and always doing anything for the grandhchildren.
DeleteI loved the grandma too! she was so cute!
Deletei totally agree! one of the main reason i liked this movie so much is because of the cute little grandma!
DeleteJust the way they were drawn, like, the art style. It made me feel uncomfortable, too much emphasis might confuse the audience. Or, like n my case, upset them.
DeleteI agree with you. Animated movies make you fall in love with their worlds and their characters. Even if the animation is strange and quirky you cant help in enjoying those funny characters in this movie. Even the bodyguards were interesting!
Deletei liked the movie and i liked the grandma too! she reminds me of my own grandma in a way.
DeleteI think that may be why I was able to watch the movie. The grandma was soo adorable and homely. I think if she wasn't in it I wouldn't bother. (Or if they changed the way she looked)
DeleteYeah, my grandma is really tough, much like the grandma in the movie. So I made that connection, I also made the emotional connection before.
DeleteYeah, the grandma looked the most normal. I really liked her character. I felt bad for her at times, but she overall was my favorite character.
DeleteAs i said before. I think that this movie would be very boring without the proportions.If everyone was normal i would not of liked it. Does any one else agree/disagree?
DeleteI loved the grandma because she did so much by saying so little.
DeleteI agree with Dakota. It had happy moments but not really any sad ones. The only scene I could think that was even romotely sad was when the grandmother's son was "abducted" by the mafia guys and he just kind of accepted it and got into the truck with the other abductees. And that was that. So I wouldn't particularly say any of it was sad. There were plenty of happy moments though including the ending. It ended on a happy note...
ReplyDeleteWhoops...this was in response to if ToB was happy or sad...
Deletei think it was meant to be a happy story because one of the things said in class was that it was a ugly beautiful kind of movie. So like when the grandma was living with he triplets and she was kind of poking at the food you could tell she didnt like it but she still ate some everytime because it was better than nothing.Then she wanted to help clean and the triplets stopped her, it showed how she was thankful and taking what she had to live with and i guess she was happy with it so why should it be sad?
ReplyDeleteI agree I think it was a happy movie with a sad story of a grandma trying to find her grandson. I also liked the idea of an "ugly beautiful" movie
Delete"The story is too bizarre and wonderful to summarize" I really agree with this. And some of the other reviews said "I cannot do this film justice", and I agree. It's one of those inside joke movies, where you have to see it to understand and appreciate it, you can't just hear bits and pieces from people and try to put the whole thing together. I really liked this movie. Who did, and who didn't, and why?
ReplyDeleteI thought it was good, because they don't really make any movies like this anymore. I agree this movie is too bizarre and wonderful to summarize. If I tried explaining it, I wouldn't be able to. I overall liked this movie.
DeleteI totally agree with what Robert Ebert said. I personally enjoyed this film, though it did have a bit of a slow start, I thought it was great. Every scene seems so different from the last that if you don't watch the entire thing, you'd be so lost. The whole movie itself is just indescribable and I like it because it's very unique and different from anything I ever watched.
Deletethis movie was actually kind of a goofy sad movie. Where some parts made you laugh, some made you cringe, some made you sad, and some scenes make you think "WHAT IS GOING ON?!" so it can be niether sad or happy. at the end the grandma went for her grandson and got him back, which was a happy ending. the tone of the movie can go either way for this movie, and i think it would go more on the happy side. It has a happy ending, and even when the dog's tail got run over, he was still okay.
ReplyDeletei think this movie is a perfect fit for all emotions. i compleatly agree i think the ending was great the fact that it was a happy ending changed alot of things
Deletei know we already talked about this but i feel that they were making fun of Americans and saying that we are fat. what do you feel or think about it?
ReplyDeleteYeah that was my impression too. Right when I saw the statue of liberty, and it was fat, and holding a burger, I knew they were making fun of America.
DeleteLike I said before, I think this movie was an animated caricature that showed the different stereotypes of Americans and the French.
DeleteYup it was pretty obvious that they were making fun of Americans; when they showed the fat statue of liberty I actually thought it was a bit humorous and clever the way that they subtly added that in.
DeleteI just don't understand why they were making all the people fat, if they were meant to be in france...that whole concept was confusing to me
DeleteDued I totally agree they were sterotyping Amercains. I totally thought thats not cool. Amercains arent fat (some Amercains are, but most are'nt).
DeleteJust not in this area they aren't. You should visit the south sometime, Ali. That'd change your mind.
DeleteI agree with Riley, they were showing different sterotypes of Americans and French.
DeleteSearly Billy I didn't know that southern people were fat. I just thought they were red neack cowboys.
DeleteI was stereotyping like you just did, Ali, but I have seen wide loads of obese people (pun intended) like when I went to the Phoenix, Arizona airport over spring break and I remember lots of fat people in the northeast when I went with my family a couple years ago. Also in Texas
DeleteAli, spell the words right, half the time I don't know what you're trying to say
DeleteEasy Danny. I thought it was funny how they stereotyped americans because you never really see a movie making fun of America. Usually we make fun of other places.
DeleteI think it was sad at the end when they were just watching the whole thing on the television because it gives you the feeling nothing actually happened..
ReplyDeletebut..... the beginning of the movie started off with a lot of different scenes of channel hopping! maybe the whole entire thing is just one big channel hop on someone's bored Sunday. Gives it a nice perspective twist.
DeleteAs I read the first review, I saw this quote, "There is not even a way I can tell you what the film is "like," because I can't think of another film "like" it." I completely agree with this statement. During the movie I was so confused, but not necessarily in a bad way. It was almost like an entertaining confusion, if that makes any sense. It was a feeling I've never felt before with any movie. There is a part in the same review where the author talks about how he couldn’t even begin to explain how he felt towards the movie. I feel the exact same way. I couldn't find the right words that describe the movie.
ReplyDeleteI agree, this movie is different than other movies. Like we talked about in class, it was was a good , intentional kind of confusion that was explained in the next frame. Unlike other movies that accidently create confusion to the audience.
DeleteI think we need more american movies like this. Dark, adult animations. American animators usually target just kids and the really good american animators target kids, but entertain the parents. I think using films like this as an example, America should start producing more adult animated movies
ReplyDeleteI disagree, Who would want to see a creepy movie like this? I didn't even know that they made this one till flim studies.
DeleteI totally agree with you. Animated movies can be serious and complex they dont have to be fairy tales and small kid stories. I love animation and I appreciate all the art that they put into it. We need more adult based animated moviess here because everybody else is doing it.
DeleteI agree so much. Last year I went to the music box theater and saw "idiots and angels", a film that was really simliar to this in terms of animation and darker, more adult-directed ideas. I really love movies like this cos then you can appreciate it the older you get, but it's still more than valid for a younger audience.
DeleteI don't mean show this one, I mean make an animated movie with a darker, more subtle tone than in most kids movies. Granted Pixar has been making kids movies that most adults like, but adults aren't their first priority. I would like to see another studio make a more adult animation once in a while instead of mass producing kid's movies.
DeleteTo be a animated movie for adults it does not have to have this same style of animation in fact it can be a more realistic animation. I think what billy is trying to say that animated movies can have a more adult plot in their stories
DeleteI disagree Ali, they should make darker animations like this. They would attract to an older audience. It wasn't creepy, it was "ugly beautiful"
DeleteI agree with Dakota, you really can appreciate these types of films as you get older and it just seems like one of those films that never get old because of it's originality and uniqueness.
DeleteThe only truly adult animated films I've seen are this one Japanese movie "Princess Mononoke" that my brother showed me and this one. Both these movies were incredible. I would like to see more of this.
DeleteI agree. I think there is adult animation, such as Family Guy, but the point of the show is to simply entertain. I think it would be cool if there were more adult animation movies and shows because the possibilites with what the creaters could do with the story and artistically is endless.
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ReplyDeleteWhat? Of course not were did you come from?
DeleteI think that ToB uses the proportions to create a character.For each person we can tell who they are by just looking at how they look. 101 dalmations uses that as well. For example like Billy said Cruela is proportioned to make her look evil and scarier. I think it adds excitement to the movie. I think ToB would be boring if everyone was proportioned right.
DeleteI think that the ToB is a sad film with very little emotions. The movie goes off on these tangents that can be funny at times, but most of the time it seems very random and you’re not quite sure what you just saw. Towards the end of the film all of these random events come together and it seemed to make sense. I thought that most of the story had a depressing theme, because the grandma is looking for her abducted grandson and she is running into problems along the way.
ReplyDeletei disagree with you because it was full of emotion in its own secret way. the movie was not random, everything happened for a reason. it seemed like a weird movie but everything happened for a reason and in a logical order.
DeleteI agree with Jake. The movie was full of emotions. There were a lot of random things that happened, but then later in the movie, you see the purpose for whatever it was.
Delete"..."Triplets of Belleville" will have you walking out of the theater with a goofy damn grin on your face, wondering what just happened to you." It's funny, I totally agree with this statement, one of the few things I would agree with Roger Ebert mind you. I did have a smirk across my face during the majority of this movie just because of how crazy everything in it looked and the way things played out in the film. I still am wondring what happened...
ReplyDeleteI agree with you. The movie itself is just so all over the place and crazy that you can't help but walk out with a goofy, dazed grin.
DeleteI dont agree becuase a lot of people would leave in the first five minutes because of the animation. This movie is not for everyone. Some people dont like this type of animation. I feel like its a hit or miss with whoever watches this movie. Either you love it or you are never ever going to think about it again.
Deletevisually stimulating, but not an overload. Everything was really tastefully done.
DeleteI agree. Almost the whole movie I was smiling because of all the different, funny, random events that happened, even though I honestly had no idea what was happening.
DeleteAt the same time though, I was personally alright with having no idea what was happening. It might have made it more enjoyable...?
Delete"All animation is obsessive; Triplets also manages to seem fresh. It's nasty but droll, cheerfully grotesque.." i agree with this quote from one of the articles because although the animation seems ugly in a way its different and original "fresh" and it makes it alot more interesting, especially the way the characters were drawn they were "cheerfully grotesque."
ReplyDeletewhen i say the characters are "cheerfully groseque" i mean it was funny to see how distorted they looked
DeleteTrue but its not a movie I would not pay to see, it was terrible.
DeleteAmanda... like a sick sense of humour, one isn't really "scared" of the animation, but regardless they are a little off-put by it. I know exactly whatcha mean.
DeleteWhy didn't you like it Ali? Are you just so used to kids animation that this one is too much?
DeleteAli, I don't think it was that bad...come on man, the whole time you have been ripping on this movie. Is there anything you actually DID like about it?
DeleteNO Danny, there was nothing I like about this movie.
Deletewhy? it seriously wasn't that awful. You must've been somewhat entertained
DeleteYa you have to admit that it was pretty darn entertaining at some points Ali...
DeleteYES it was that AWFUl Danny. It sucked and I was not enetertained at all.
DeleteThe only problem I had was when the French mafia was always missing them. I guess that's why no one hears about the French mafia
DeleteAli, you sound like a youtube commenter, you should say someting substantial.
DeleteDo you thiink the last half of ToB took place in american and the first part took place in france?
ReplyDeleteit started in France and then went to an american city with a french twist to it but all of the people are from America. thats what i think.
Deletei agree with you, cowlin thought differently but i thought the same thing.
DeleteI think the 2nd half was in America, but the voice acting sounded french due to dubbing and things like that.
DeleteThat does make sense because if you think about it. If it was all in France, then they would basically be calling themselves fat. Americans are known for being fat so it's only logical to assume that it started in France then came to America.
DeleteAlso, as they were leaving BelleVille there was a sign in English
DeleteDid you guys notice that the whole entire time, the scenes always merged into the next? Like when they were cooking the pot of frogs, it went to the next scene but turning into a moon. It always transitions by merging into the next scene. I feel like there was a term for this but I forgot..
ReplyDeletesuperimposition?
DeleteYoure right.
Deletesuperimpostion? i think thats the correct word and yes i definitley noticed this alot and i love that type of tranistion its interesting to watch it fade and turn into something new!
DeleteOne of the reviews says "The action leaves Paris for New York, maybe" This goes to show that a lot of did think they went to America. I feel like they did it on purpose make it a mysterious city to not make you think about the place but about the characters in the place.
ReplyDeleteI never really decided during the movie where it was taking place... I just thought it was an animation made straight outta France. Now I can see where some of the poking humour at Americans comes from, and I don't deny it, but I dunno, I don't think it ever took place in America.
Deleteduring the movie i was trying to figure out if they were in new york or not. because it seemed to me like they were but then when the discussion in class came about i started thinking otherwise
DeleteWhen I first start watching this film I thought it was weird and then I changed my mind because wasn’t weird didn’t seem like the right word to describe this movie. It’s different from any other cartoon I’ve ever seen. It’s kooky, but still seem a kind of normal. As Roger Ebert said, “To call it weird would be a cowardly evasion. It is creepy, eccentric, eerie, flaky, freaky, funky, grotesque, inscrutable, kinky, kooky, magical, oddball, spooky, uncanny, uncouth and unearthly”. I love all those adjectives he used to describe the film. That’s exactly how the film is. He also said that after watching this film people would walk out the theater with a goofy grin on their face, but I think people would walk out the theater saying “What did I just watch?” Not in a bad way though, more like seeing something extremely different for the first time.
ReplyDeleteyes! and I love that some people were really willing to let go of some of their safety bubbles and view something that would make them slightly uncomfortable.
Deleteyes, you are right, that all those adjectives describe that movie. When first started wathcing the movie i didnt like it, becuase it odd, it was wierd. But i grew used to it and i would to see it again
Deletecorrect. when i was watching it at the begining i though it was stupid i thought it was like other cartoons that arent from the U.S. because in my opinon cartoons are better in the U.S. i dont tend to like cartoons from other countrys
DeleteWhen this movie started i thought that it was one of the weirdest movies ive ever seen. i thought that the fact the all of the bodies were way out of praportion was a great way to use animation. i also thought that the plot was given verry well even though the dialougue was verry minimal. i think that the only reason that it kept me engaged was because of how weird it was. if it wasnt all that weird i would have easily day dreamed durring the movie and what not. overall i think it was a great movies and these reviews say alot i think the second one is a little bit off as a whole but that is just my opinion.
ReplyDeleteI quite liked all of these details. One of my friends is a film buff and I always like to get his advice whenever I plan to watch any movie. Recently I was looking for the kids’ friendly shows and movies and he suggested me to go through the shows by Andy Yeatman. Truly, these have wonderful content. My kids are enjoying these thoroughly.
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