Here are two articles about American Movie. The first is an interview with Mark Borchardt and Mike Shank given right about the time the movie came out - in 2000. The second is a review of the film around the same time. Read them both. I have a question for you at the end.
Arts: Film: The loser who made Milwaukee famous
Mark Borchardt was an obsessive, alcoholic, no-hoper, wannabe film director. Then someone made a documentary about him.
Fiona Morrow. The Independent. London (UK): Jun 23, 2000. pg. 1 Copyright Newspaper Publishing Plc Jun 23, 2000
There isn't much we don't already know about the American Dream: it's been served up by Hollywood since the moguls discovered California. Yet despite all candy-coated make-believe, it has retained its currency; there are still millions of Americans daring to dream the impossible dream. Mark Borchardt is one of them. An intelligent guy from a Milwaukee backwater, Borchardt has fancied himself as a film-maker since he was a kid with a Super 8 camera.
Brought up on low expectations, he took the factory jobs, cleaned the crematorium, delivered newspapers, married the wrong girl, had three kids, split up and wound up back at mom and dad's place, all the time imagining his movie.
The early films were typical teenage boy stuff: quick horror flicks with titles such as The More the Scarier, and The More The Scarier III. His friends had nothing better to do, so everyone helped out. The same friends were happy to muck in when he began his first serious short film Coven, and started talking about his feature film, Northwestern. Director Chris Smith met Borchardt at a film festival and, intrigued by the enthusiastic self-promotion on display, asked if he might follow the progress of Northwestern in a documentary. Borchardt agreed, and four years later, American Movie won the Grand Jury prize at the Sundance festival.
It isn't hard to see why. Borchardt is the perfect documentary subject: an obsessive, passionate, borderline psychotic alcoholic. He is also very articulate, knows his movies and is apparently capable of persuading almost anyone to do almost anything.
His family and friends are worth the ticket too: Uncle Bill, the ancient coot, plenty rich, but living in a trailer; mom, extra, sometime camera operator; Kenny, the jailbird associate producer; and Mike Shank, Borchardt's brain-dead best friend and the other star of the show. If you haven't already worked it out, I should point out that American Movie is hilarious.
Still, I was slightly apprehensive about interviewing Borchardt and Shank. I knew from the film that Borchardt could be extremely belligerent. But it was Shank who really worried me. Shank, the one- time drug user and alcoholic, has wound up with a fried brain. What the hell were we going to talk about?
I concentrate on Borchardt. He's been drinking all day, but is obviously on a high from the press attention. American Movie has played well in the States, and his telephone has been ringing with job offers and potential investors for months. His short film Coven has sold nearly 3,000 copies via the American Movie website, and, bizarrely, talk show host, David Letterman has made him the Late Show's political correspondent. Not bad for a kid from Menomenee Falls, Milwaukee.
I begin with the obvious opener: Did he ever imagine the documentary would lead to all this?
"Not at all," he replies. "You don't set yourself up for the fall. I knew something would come of it, but I didn't anticipate this, sitting here, in London, being interviewed. Cool man". He speaks in a very particular, skewed vernacular. The delivery is intense and small talk is not his thing. But has all this media attention distracted him from his dream to make Northwestern?
"Oh absolutely, but along with that distraction has come women and money and that's so great, too, man. The heart grows and yearns and says you've really got to make the film you want to make, so just by natural momentum, you come back to it. Of course this has been distracting - you have all the money in the world to drink - but this fall I start shooting." When I ask Borchardt if he has he managed to finance Northwestern on the back of American Movie, the strength of his personality comes to the fore. His reply is delivered like a steam train, barely stopping to draw breath.
"The money for Northwestern means nothing, because money can't make a good script. It hit me all of a sudden: I'm gonna raise $70- 100,000 on my own and shoot the film. I've had plenty of legitimate offers and I never responded to any of them, because this is a personal film and I don't want no dude putting in money and then turning around and saying, `by the way can my girlfriend be in it?', or any of that crap. It's just going to be me, waking up one morning this fall, grabbing a cup of coffee, picking up the camera and a tripod and taking off down some lonely rural road."
It sounds hopelessly romantic, but Borchardt is completely wrapped up in the mythology of the film-maker as great artist. He doesn't want to be the next Quentin Tarantino. He wants to make cinema "like Kubrick and Fellini, Godard and Polanski. American Movie has absolutely nothing to do with my work. It has exposed me to Letterman, people from Hollywood and New York sending me scripts and flying me out to auditions and all that crap. But remember, you're responsible for your own push-ups, your own sit-ups and your own daily writing, man. It's completely free and comes from your own self- discipline. Celebrity is to screw as many women as possible and to pay for good beer, that's all that's worth". The film paints him as something of a procrastinator, did he recognise himself on screen?
"Yep. This drunk dude walking around. But I also saw a talented, determined person in a set of circumstances that don't usually allow for those things to occur. I don't know what other people are thinking and I don't care. I'm after my American Dream and I'm starting to live it."
We talk about movies for a while - how much Borchardt hates them, particularly when he's on a drinking streak as he has been all year - when, out of nowhere, Shank pipes up. "Mark likes anything with black girls in it. I've never met anyone in my whole life who likes black girls as much as Mark. All day, like 50 times a day he's going, `Man, there's another black girl.' When he looks for magazines he purposefully picks out the ones with black girls in them." This is revelation is delivered in dead-pan monotone, and leaves me floundering. Luckily Borchardt rises to the bait.
"Well dude, of course I'm gonna take what I like. Do you arbitrarily take out magazines?"
Shank: "For Christmas I bought him a calendar, but I should have got him this Playboy Women of Colour. I think next year you can be expecting that."
Borchardt: "Oh, that would be totally cool dude, definitely."
I'm staring at two men dressed like the boys you ignored at school - Iron Maiden T-shirts, too much hair - talking about porn as if it they were discussing their favourite cereal. I manage to stop goldfishing long enough to ask Shank if he felt at all exploited by his portrayal in American Movie.
"If you ask me I was accurately portrayed and I'd rather have the audience response it gets - the laughter and all that. I'm just a guy with a brain. I got a friend at AA who was shooting $2,700 of cocaine into the base of his skull everyday and they had to cut out a third of his brain, and he functions more normally than I do.
The success of American Movie has inevitably changed Borchardt's life: he's been offered a part in Todd Solodnz's next film. "I'm considering it as a job opportunity, but I won't go if Mark can't come with me." So, Hollywood looms for both of them?
Borchardt: "I've gotta do some stuff out there, and there's some weird, great stuff happening, but I would never take it seriously. I'm not going to be corrupted. I'd like to screw a bunch of chicks, but I'm not gonna get sucked in." The American Dream lives on all right.
Movie Review; 'American Movie'
Turns Camera on Indie Filmmaker
Kevin Thomas. Los Angeles Times. Los Angeles, Calif.: Nov 12, 1999. pg. 18
(Copyright, The Times Mirror Company; Los Angeles Times 1999 all Rights reserved)
Chris Smith's "American Movie," which took the Grand Jury Prize for best documentary at Sundance this year, is sure to draw lots of laughs. Here's this small-town Wisconsin guy, Mark Borchardt, trying to make a movie on a shoestring with the help of some pals, in particular his spacey, shaggy musician friend Mike Schank, while coaxing money out of his frail, bleary 82-year-old uncle Bill Borchardt. These people say and do goofy things from time to time, and they all sound like the people in "Fargo."
Chroniclers of the independent filmmaking scene, however, may not be so easily amused. We know all too well that the world has an abundance of Mark Borchardts, and the likelihood of any of them getting anywhere is no better than winning the lottery.
Even so, although overly long at 107 minutes, "American Movie" is an incisive, largely absorbing work and a far more mature effort than Smith's "American Job," which sent the message, intentionally or otherwise, that menial jobs are beneath young white males.
Never condescending to Borchardt, a tall, lean 30-year-old with a goatee, long hair and outsize glasses, Smith assumes a detached stance at the start and sticks to it. In doing so, he invites us to see Borchardt as an archetypal all-American individualist determined to pursue the American Dream in an era of lowered expectations.
For years Borchardt has been working intermittently on "Northwestern," which he describes as about a bunch of guys "drinkin', drinkin', drinkin' "--and which sounds more than a little autobiographical. Early on in "American Movie," Borchardt is forced to abandon the project once again, for the usual reason, a lack of funds. Instead, he resumes work on a supernatural horror thriller, "Coven," shooting in 16 millimeter. Even if he succeeds in completing it, it will have taken him three years to do so. That Borchardt's hero is "Night of the Living Dead's" George Romero is evident in glimpses we get of "Coven." ("Coven" screens tonight and next Friday night at the Nuart at 12:15 a.m., accompanied by 1981's "The Howling.")
To his credit, Borchardt, who began making movies at 14, is a resourceful, knowledgeable craftsman; he knows what he wants and how to get it. He's strong-willed, hard-working and focused. He's chronically deep in debt and in a precarious position in a looming custody struggle with his ex-girlfriend over their children. He supports himself delivering papers and working as a cemetery maintenance man. He's a motor-mouth who can be pretty wearying but has an open, affable quality that makes you hope he somehow miraculously beats the odds and enjoys some measure of success.
His Swedish-born mother is supportive, and her estranged husband, Mark's father, wishes his son well but is understandably dubious. Even more so is one of Mark's brothers, who says he thinks Mark would be better off working in a factory and wonders who would want to see "Coven" anyway.
At one point Mark pauses to consider that here he is, 30 years old, and having to clean up a filthy restroom at the cemetery. The question he needs to ask himself is how he would feel about still doing it at 40.
Mr. Cowlin here. You know what? I just erased my initial question. It was about the two above articles. But you know what? I don't care. I love this movie so much, I just don't want to disect it right now. So forget it. Here's the question I really want to hear you answer: What's your favorite part and why?
My favorite part of the movie is when Mark is trying to get Bill to say something for the opening line of his film, and Bill keeps messing up and forgeting the words. It,s my favoite part because its supper funny the way Bill talks and messes up so badly.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with Emily. This part had me cracking up. Bill's ramblings are quite hilarious, his cadence is almost hypnotizing. The one point where Mark tells Bill to "...say it like you really believe it!" and Bill's remark of "I don't" is priceless. It's such a great quip that it could never really have been written by even the wittiest script writer and also shows how almost everyone who is around Mark has little to no enthusiasm for his project. Mark sees this and still perseveres which makes him so endearing.
ReplyDeleteMy favorite part is when Mike comes over to Mark's house after Thanksgiving. I found it so strange that people like Mike and Mark could get along, I would have assumed that Mark would be annoyed of people like Mike. But this scene showed even despite their differences, Mark and Mike need each other. Mark was in this depressed mood and Mike was able to make him smile, just by being his regular, slow self. Overall this scene was my favorite, because they were able to depict a bizarre, yet sweet friendship like Mark and Mike's.
ReplyDeletemy favorite part is the same as Zach and Emily. this is because although mark has no power in the movie industry he still wants the opening part to be as perfect as it can be. i mean he is asking a 80 year old man who has a really low voice who cant remember anything to bring passion. like what was mark thinking. it took about 40 i think shots to get it just right. i am assuming, in marks mind perfect is something totally different then what a normal film maker would think.
ReplyDeleteI really can't say I have a favourite part! This movie is both entertaining and extremely motivational, especially to someone who does cheesy artsy things and gives up on them in a matter of hours. As a whole this movie gave me the feeling inside that, hey, maybe you can shoot a crappy silent movie and then leave it be for years to come!
ReplyDeleteBut there's always another time to pick it up and work on it and fix it.
And, like everybody else, the whole scene where Bill is trying 30 times over to recite his lines is nothing less than heartwarming. Even at an age like his, one can still be a star!
Love this movie. Serious thank-you's Mr. Cowlin for showing it!!
My My favorite part of the movie was when Mark tells Bill to say the opening line of his movie. I think this part was absolutlely hilarious because Bill keeps on forgetting his lines, and Bill must have said Cut about thirty times. One thing I also love is how Bill seems to have no enthusiasm he is just saying the lines to be done with it. In fact no one really seems to have any enthusiasm except Mark, Mike is always just there with Mark agreeing most of the time not even paying attention. But the part when Mark tells Bill "say it like you believe it" and Bill responds "I don't beileve it" was just hilarious.
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ReplyDeleteMy favorite part has got to be be Mike Shank and Bill purely being themselves. Mike is hilarious with his monotone answers and his "fried" brian. Bill with his awkward moans and groans is the stereotype old man. Put the two of them together and it is laugh out loud funny. I laugh every time I think of Mark asking Mike about how the actors are butchering his dialogue and Mike looks straight at the camera and straight faced monotone says no. End of conversation.
Brandon Stark
ReplyDeleteMy favorite scene is hard to choose. But for now it would probably have to be the scene with Mark trying to get his uncle to say opening line to the movie. The humor was priceless and the uncle was hilarious. Mark is always so serious which makes it funny to watch. This movie just keeps on getting funnier and funnier. The ending will be intresting to see what will happen.
I'd have to say my favorite part of the movie is when Mark is trying to get a shot of him smashing the guys head into a cabinet. I really like this scene, because it's just so hysterical. You can obviously tell that the guy that he is going to be doing it to is thinking "OH CRAP!" And to think they have to shoot the scene multiple times before it finally breaks. Another thing I like about this scene is that Mark moves the other guy around a bit before he smashes his head. It makes the guy think "now! no,now! no, now! no, AGH!" Just really funny.
ReplyDeleteCan't wait for the ending though.
It's alright. It's okay. There's something to live for. Jesus told me...uh...never mind.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Caleb selection the part where Mark is shoving the guys head into the cabinet repeatedly and the guy gets knocked out and is bleeding and is just laying there
ReplyDeleteCaleb - The first few times I saw American Movie, that was my favorite too. In fact, that's the scene I'd describe to people to get them to watch it. "It's about this guy making this movie, and there's this one part where he just smashes this guy's head against a cabinet but the door won't bust but the guy won't give up."
ReplyDeleteBut now that I'm on my, like, 15th time watching this thing, it's the little moments that get me. The brother's Hooters shirt. Mark in the basement getting angry with the filmmakers and then taking a bite out of a giant urkey leg. Mike Shank whispering about winning 50 bucks so no one takes it.
There are a few movies out there that have a particular effect on me. This is one of them. ... But I'll save that after our next assignment. I don't want to give anything away. Remind me to bring it up next week.
This movie is just incredibly hilarious, i do not believe I have a favorite part though! What I have loved the most so far are the little one line comments with just the character alone such as Mark talking about the good ol' days drinking beer and shootin film, all while mentioning right at the end that this was when he was 14. These are just brilliant to me. Also when Mike just sorta mumbles for 30 seconds about partying and always seems to be in a haze, its all soooooo funny! Another great one liner is when mark is setting up the shot in the forest and he says something along the line of "man, you guys need to look more menacing!" when the black hooded characters just stand there. I think the best parts of this movie are the one line punches that just make the laughs come out.
ReplyDeleteI find this question very difficult to answer for me because there is just so much I love in this movie. This movies is definitely full of little hilarious moments mixed up mainly between mark, mike and uncle bill and then everyone else in the movie. There are so many funny scenes like when mark is trying to film the scene were the actor gets his head thrown through a cabinet and mark actually uses a real hard wood cabinet. Then there are also mixed scenes of mark talking to Mike and Mike talking to the camera and those are always funny. But some of the most hilarious scenes, as everyone said above, are between mark and Bill. Bill is an exceptionally hilarious character while not trying at all and just being himself; he is definitely funny in the scene when he gets drunk off of peppermint shnopps and gets bathed by Mark. But there are also a lot of great other scenes that have more emotion to them and really produce a lot of sadness for the viewer. Like when Mark talks about the graveyard and how he is thirty with kids and has to work at a crematorium at 30 years. Most of all though I think my favorite scene is when frank is at the cemetery and is talking about how it is like a stage for potential creation and no one there can judge you on what you think and what you do with your life. Which I think is something we all would enjoy and feel sometimes in our own lives. Mark is really an intellectual deep down behind all the booze and profanities and shows a lot of depth and meaning in this movie. After reading these articles I feel like they have only strengthened my interest and fondness of his character because he still really has a true heart and love for film amidst all the hollywood nonsense and really doesn't care about the fame except for what he says, getting hot chicks and nice booze. I also felt like people kind of demeaning toward Mark and tried to make him seem like just an idiot and not the true intellectual and artist he is. Just look at the title of the first article, "The Loser who made Milwaukee famous" its degrading to Mark and the people in the movie. Does anyone else agree with this?
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ReplyDeleteI find this question very difficult to answer for me because there is just so much I love in this movie. This movies is definitely full of little hilarious moments mixed up mainly between mark, mike and uncle bill and then everyone else in the movie. There are so many funny scenes like when mark is trying to film the scene were the actor gets his head thrown through a cabinet and mark actually uses a real hard wood cabinet. Then there are also mixed scenes of mark talking to Mike and Mike talking to the camera and those are always funny. But some of the most hilarious scenes, as everyone said above, are between mark and Bill. Bill is an exceptionally hilarious character while not trying at all and just being himself; he is definitely funny in the scene when he gets drunk off of peppermint shnopps and gets bathed by Mark. But there are also a lot of great other scenes that have more emotion to them and really produce a lot of sadness for the viewer. Like when Mark talks about the graveyard and how he is thirty with kids and has to work at a crematorium. Most of all though I think my favorite scene is when Mark is at the cemetery and is talking about how it is like a stage for potential creation and no one there can judge you on what you think and what you do with your life. Which I think is something we all would enjoy and feel sometimes in our own lives. Mark is really an intellectual deep down behind all the booze and profanities and shows a lot of depth and meaning in this movie. After reading these articles I feel like they have only strengthened my interest and fondness of his character because he still really has a true heart and love for film amidst all the hollywood nonsense and really doesn't care about the fame except for what he says, getting hot chicks and nice booze. I also felt like people were kind of demeaning toward Mark and tried to make him seem like just an idiot and not the true intellectual and artist he is. Just look at the title of the first article, "The Loser who made Milwaukee famous" its degrading to Mark and the people in the movie. Does anyone else agree with this?
My favorite part was when mike shank was talking about the lottery. "Sometimes you win sometimes you lose, but with drugs you always lose." He said it in such a monotone fashion that you believed him but it was simply hilarious because it didn't seem like he believed himself almost. Perhaps they were trying to give a kid-friendly message? Either way I found it to be very funny.
ReplyDeleteI love that the two articles say that he is an archetypal figure: a man seeking the american dream. I also think its interesting that he won't take money offers, and wants to raise the money on his own to make the movies. Despite him being a drinker and sort of hopeless, he has fought his way through and making it work. His character almost annoys me in the movie, because when watching it, I keep thinking "well you could have done this..." but I have to admit, it is funny and makes me laugh. My favorite part is got to be every part i laugh at... probably out of all of them I like when he was trying to get uncle bill to say that phrase in the car and it took them 30 tries before they gave up ("Jesus told me so!"). But overall this is a hard question, there are many good scenes. I also like when they were shooting coven and they were in that field/forest and there was snow and he was so determined to shot it right.
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